Big Bang Discovery - God Spoiler

[Dv8]

" Please give me clearer proof of the existence of God. " I cannot give you any clearer proof than you looking outside your front door , You could look at the complexity of DNA , the fossil record to name a few .They both support creation .

Just pointing out that science says the universe is expanding and the bible seems to suggest the same , by way of god stretching out the universe .

Anyway that was old news they allready said the universe was expanding , they make it sound like its a groundbreaking discovery


What was before the big bang ? And if this is a holgraphic Earth/Universe projected , means there still has to be a source universe ?
Takes us back to "how" ? When and by "who" There had to be something to start it , acccidents do not result in complexity ...

" egg head trying to prove the need for socialism " The egg heads being the illuminati and also scientific fact with extinction rates as predicted in the bible , to me theres alot of Evidence for the Existence of God , maybe its just me that see's it


The bible predicting something that's been recurring endlessly

Dont know what you mean by that , but no , nowhere else in history have all these things come together at one junction as today , never has there been a Global government
Weapons of mass destruction , Extinction rates we are now seeing , Mankind getting to the point of destroying the Earth , and many many more that have all come together only "once" in history , and the comming fall of the Church , these are finality events , one offs ... Only twice has god said he,s going to destroy creation , twice , the flood and now , recurring endlessly ? Maybe from an extiction biologist's point of view , but even then , scientists say this is the biggest extinction rate since the dinosaurs , so thats (1) this is (2) , endlessly is a far stretch imo .




Frikkin toga hijacked my thread with his day surgery stuff , the cheeck

No good luck , no chaos here , no deffinately not

[JToombsy]

[INKoRP]

[Dv8]

Yer understand that looking from today , but a big call from 2000 yrs ago , along with wmd and the Vatican etc , not just that ink , it just confirms yet another prophecy imo as comming into view for our time ...

I get from a romans standpoint , they could see some of these things , but theres alot they simply could not see , which makes the bible very unique , then when you go back to the big bang also , science can only answer so far , Laurence Kraws and richard dawkins combined speach " Something from nothing" is a far stretch imo ...

If there is a god , his intelligence must surely way surpass our understanding of the universe ?

[Dv8]

And if the illuminati whistle blowers are to be believed about Demonic rule these demonically possed ppl are in government and science , just have to look at the all seeing eye Katy perry and Lady Gaga wear sometimes and both have sworn alleigence to Lucifer .(the vids are on you-tube)

Illuminati and skull and bones members , include the Bush,s who have both been photographed with reptilian eyes , ex members talk about the satanic rituals , worship of lucifer and meeting actual demonic spirits who take any form they like , ppl , reptilians Pose as Aliens , and have infilltrated governments , picking of one country after another until they have global rule ..

And ex members talk about there comming plans for a new Global religion ruled by the Anit-christ , this is very specific bible prophecy , unfortuanelly no-one in the illuminati has obviously picked up a bible ....It is very " Co-incidental"

This was the only thing ive ever been confused about , how satan rules this world ? The bible says he does , but i could never see the connection as in how does he " mingle" with humans , the illuminati is that door , there rituals are satanic and even some ex members who said an entity introduced himself to them as Lucifer the " Christ " , three stories tall , very bright and very Loving/Comforting ... Said they were planning a "second comming" of there own to decieve christians (the bible predicts this) With Lucifer comming claiming to be christ ...The bible is specific about Jesus actuall time to show up , the anti-christ's appearence will be sooner than expected but very very believable according to the bible , i just find it amazing the material ive found on the illuminati ...Especially how some members were introduced to a being claiming to be christ whose name was Lucifer
these ppl have never picked up a bible , but these are outstanding claims , and excactly what the bible has said will happen ...

These are the reasons christians know this is the times , the bible says most wont see it , but for those that do , its srikingly obvious , even with my knowledge i missed this till recently , i knew the how and when but no the who , last piece of the puzzle ..

Feel free to go off topic tho peeps these are just my observations , or christians observations but sheesh the evidence is striking

Interesting stuff imo

[Dv8]

1 Straight jacket for Dv8 comming up ?

[INKoRP]

I get the impression that you're hung up on the 'something from nothing' thing... which isn't what anyone seriously believes.

It's simple forensics, we can trace it all back to an explosion or a "collision"... but after that things get VERY hard to discern.

We're not there yet unless you discount theorizing (worlds apart from a scientific 'theory' mind you) and of course the whole swallowing what the bible tells us (I just can't find it in myself to do it, it seems a bit arrogant to me (not a personal insult btw))

If it is as the bible says, scientific inquiry will only go on to prove it.

[INKoRP]

The beginnings of life is another concept altogether. Have you seen any of the "Wonders of the Solar System/Universe" presented by Brian Cox?

It's fascinating stuff and I think you'd get a lot out of it. When I get home I'll scope out some torrents if you like?

I own it on blu-ray

[frodo]

ah ffs now dv8 I'd doing the reptile thing. seriously W T F!

Katy Perry uses the all seeing eye ? so we are all fucked? yet ac/ db who depict horns out of their head.... well they are on

[Dv8]

lol frodo , na just saying what ive found out about the illuminati , so i assume if hardy is in contact with "reptilains" there demons mascerading as Aliens , Reptilians and Dead relatives , becuase the bible doesnt teach about life after death or ghosts only Fallen Angels , decieving ...

Ecc 9.5
The living know that they will die, but the dead don't know anything.
Ecc 9:10
Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom

No ghosts , no dead relatives , bible teaching only Fallen Angels mascerading as ppl , reptilians, Aliens , Living ppl .

So the illuminati fits the bill imo from what ive learnt ...

AC/DC yes , well we all love the music , we arnt the ones that have sold our soles to be famous tho :p ...


Yes im hung up on something from nothing , just becuase science , and thats what they are claiming atm that matter came from a blast of energy , i do believe science has an agenda , but in all honesty i do believe if we had enough time Science will find God , we are very very primitive yet we think we're very smart , so imo the bibles version of a young civilization makes more sense as ive mentioned before ...

1/2 a billion ppl on earth around 30 AD , 1800 1.5-2 billion , 2014 7.5 billion , if we,ve been around since 3 million odd years , they have projected a current population of 150,000 ppl per square inch , this is what they dont tell ppl , the fossil record supports creation in all fairness ...

Lol frodo Katy perry using the all seeing eye , its been mentioned in illuminati vids that if these stars use the eye in vids or interviews large cash advertising help is given , plus with the admission that both have sold there sole to the devil , and the illuminati ex members talking of satanic rituals makes some sense from a christians point of view ...


" If it is as the bible says, scientific inquiry will only go on to prove it "
True my point being tho that current events prove the bible correct , the extinction rates etc etc etc , unfortunantelly poeple wont believe till they see it , i can see it happening "now" , it doesnt take a pastor , mathematician or scientist to know that this extinction rate will ultimatelly work its way up the food chain as scientists
are pretty much all but admitting now .

http://www.news.com.au/technology/scien ... 6857350784

[booGz]

[INKoRP]

+1 booGz very well said

[Sho_OterMcGavin]

[Dv8]

Yoyr right boogz many christian scientists , what differs is interpretation of evidence .

If you look at the creation debate posted recently you will understand , the fossil record supports the creation account , non-christian scientists cannot "test" god so theres the difference , there is many many good christian scientists , but who is determining what becomes mainstream science ? Whats taught in schools ? The Governments , if the bibles correct and the illuminati/Lucifer rules this world its easy to see why and what is taught in schools ...

Yes boogz im not stupid , i dont think your implying that nor are christian scientists , the BIG difference is observational science compared to Historical science , which differs from what you can observe to chucking a theory in there , thats where discrepencies come into play , point being bible prophecy pointing to extinction rates , government , papacy was to all happen at the same time , prior to the second comming ...

So scientifically we know nothing much really , the very basics , yet we easily discount an intelligent creator , we easily accept scientific theory on things like "evolution" when the fossil record in fact supports creation yet this isnt whats taught in schools is it ?
We are indoctrinated to become tax paying slaves only , this also supports an entity such a Lucifer currently being in control imo ...

The illuminati whistle blowers are quiet outstanding in what they say and in sync with the bibles prophecies for our time , these are interesting times without a doubt , but mostly going by un-noticed by most , the news is ruled by this same elite , illuminati , would you expect to really know whats going on or there plan ?

[Dv8]

"Apparently JayZ and Beyoncé are the ring leaders"

thats false , subjects maybe , theres 12 leaders and i doubt we;d know any of them , possibly the bushes are up there but not leaders i dont think , yer wheres hardy???

Off in another dimension sorting his reply me thinks

Yer but they took the towers down , bush being in the gang , anybody that saw his reaction in the classroom would have to assume he had prior knowledge ...and there Skull and bones , owl in the woods (not correct name)satanic ritualls are not poeple who are sane in any sense of the word and these are the leaders of the U.S.A , great isnt it ? there is some real wacko stuff going on in these rituals , sacrifices , rape and U.S presidents are invloved .

They are amassing bullets and body bags , youtube and google the illuminati stuff its all there ...