Was Jesus an invention by the Romans?

[Dv8]

gubs its now afew days after his so called proof and nothing on the news ? I dont think there,ll be anybody up in arms over this , yer the romans saw a political purpose for this new religion , becuase rome was losing its fight against it so they decided to adopt it , jesus didnt adopt Rome . Yes it endured somewhat gubs , the Roman catholic church was formed with its close ties to politics which continues to today .Anybody who has any idea what the bible says knows that it condems the catholic church with its idolatry and false teachings , this is where we get Easter and Christmas not from Jesus .

Pontius Pilots wife became christian and some of his soldiers after the crusifiction , a very hard thiing to do at the time and this was generations before titas and vespasian who this atwill claims made up jesus ?

I dont see the problem , like i said most scholars atheists and christian dont give atwills theory much time , check it out ?

[Gubben]

yeah its probably all much ado about nothing DV8.... time will tell...

[Dv8]

Yer if it was anything interesting it,d be all over the news .

[hardy]

The news would never support such "outrageous" claims as jesus doesn't exist. It would go against everything everyone believes.

[Dv8]

see atwills film ( Ceasers messiah ) pretty much tries to get you to see a connection between Emporer Vespasian and Jesus , i couldnt,t see it , it reminded me of claims ppl have made like the bible has a code and "they've cracked it ...

[Gubben]

[INKoRP]

They re-write it as and when required to prove/disprove * as it suits their needs at the time.

I love hearing 'I think what Jesus meant to say was....'

[Dv8]

"how can the bible refer to the catholic church"

Speaks about a harlot sitting on the seven hills of rome , that fornicates with the governments , is respnosible with decieving millions of ppl , responsible for false teachings like worshiping idols , the way the catholic church priests dress , tells how this church is powerfull , close to world leaders , decieving ppl and creating a false religion in place of Christianity/psudo christianity .

No it doesnt mention the catholic church , but it speaks about false teachers , dressed like the catholic priests dress , speaks about it being formed in rome , and speaks about the churches power and influence in the world and politics , and would continue
decieving till the second comming , when the world will turn on the church decimating it , destroying it ..

no more religion !!! ppl should b happy

now back to Quake ..

[Dv8]

edit ,
millions and millions would argue against that point ie Catholic,s , myself and others seem to think its in plain sight that the harlot in the bible refers to the catholic church .
a religion dressed up like kings , worship of idols ie any statues, ie the mother mary , crusifixes , its close ties with governmets ,
being a powerfull player in Government desicions , a religion based on tradition rather than what jesus said .
The bible says worship god , not mother mary , not even to worship jesus , jesus said worship the father not me .
The catholics break all the rules , if u go by the bible

now back to Quakelive

[Saratoga]

[Dv8]

lol

[frodo]

grew up a churchy so all this stuff is a fuzzy memory but i always thought that the exitance of Jesus was undeniable .... even anti Jesus ppl accepted that he was an actual figure in history searchable in census' etc

The bible was written centuries after the death/ascention of JC (and re-writtenlatter) surely there is mention of the christian churches?

[frodo]

isnt easter and xmass days just a rehash of significant pagan dates? (as are alll the holy christian days)

[Dv8]

Yer Easter , godess estera , Goddess of fertiflity , hence the eggs . 25th Dec , sun god ... both pagan .

[kplxz]