The God Delusion

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Fairly decent interview with Dawkins

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Yer like how he says simple things are easy to explain ...lol asif ...

Do you know the odd,s on random chance ever producing even the simplict protien , one of the building blocks of life ?
All but impossible ..little lone producing every species of life on earth ...

Were did the creator come from ?
The bible says he has always been here and that the bible says is hard for man to comprehend .
When did time start ?
When you get to the edge of the universe , whats after that ? , also hard to comprehend ...
Sorry but it makes more sense that a god created all things than evolution that relies on random chance
to produce anything of order ...
So male and female of every species co-evolved together ?

As for a dolphin found with an extra set of fins ..
That doesnt prove evolution at all , more like pollution ...
Genetic mutations do not produce another species ...
Their was a so-called human skull found (so-called) with ape like teeth ,
for years this was supposed to be evidence of a missing link until proven to be a hoax made up of bone fragments from a human and chimpanze skull ....
Never has their been found a skeleton of the so-called missing link ever , their has been skeletons of apes and skeletons of man never of one in a so-called transformation period , that goes with every species , their is a clear distinction in the fossil record of species , no evidence of links ever ...

As for wars rusty ...
The bibles predictions are accurate and it said in our time their would be many wars , earth quakes , famines , wild weather ...
And its says religion would play a major part in the wars of our time ...
What the bible does do is condemn religion as hypocricy , i,ll say it again the bible predicts that the nations will turn on religion and that will come ...
if any of you have ever read the bible you,d know what god thinks of religion especially catholisicm ...

The reason the world is at were it is , is becuase right form the start man decided to do things his way without gods direction , and god said ok you,s have free will if you think you know best see how you,s go ...

As the bible predicted man would get himself in so much trouble in the end that he will have to step in and save the world from mankind (armaggedon) ..And also that mankind would not change its ways untill we bring about our own ruin ...

and that we would be motivated by greed , and take no-notice of the changes until it is to late ...
these are things the bible predicted thousands of years ago ...

poeple are so preocupied by greed and self to worry ...
what will make poeple take notice ?
A king tide at the doorstep ?
No water comming out of the taps ?
Whatever form it takes As time goes on people will realize that the world does have a purpose and that god deos too , and that man cannot rule himself ...

Atheists will allways out number christians "in this world" , allways have ...
that doesnt make a theory thats been around littile over a hundred years correct ...

Cheers ...

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damn...I'm embarrassed for you. I know you don't want me to be, but that was the most profound series of statements of ignorance I have seen for some time. You have absolutely no idea what constitutes a legitimate argument - you use so many logical fallacies that a university lecturer could use that post as an example of what not to do if you were trying to construct and maintain an intelligent argument.
I will not bother pointing out what is wrong with that post because it is idiotic on so many levels. It is obvious to anyone with an idea that you have never studied or probably even read a serious text on evolution, and I also doubt you have read an intelligent theological text either.
I realise that this post is coming off a little high and mighty or what have you but it pales in comparison to that self righteous rant in the name of god. Besides, there is a point where I have to draw a line in the sand, and not only did you cross that line you break danced all over it.

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Oh please ...your right you dont draw the line in the sand ...

So you have a uni degree and taught to debate everything , big deal ...

I have looked enough at evolution and the bible to make up my own mind ...

Why do you think they call it the "theory" of evoltion" and not the fact of ...

because their theories are forever changing ...

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Yes, that's because science is subject to . That's how it is and always has been, there's no secret or mystery to it.

Based on observations, theories are formulated. The theory which best describes our observations is considered to be the best one until such time as new observations are made which make another hypothesis more logically sound. Currently the best theory we have is evolution. If god decides to turn the oceans into jelly, then that may change - however, he hasn't - so we stick with evolution.

You may also want to read up on the . There's a good explanation of it under the section "Variants of the anthropic principle". It basically describes that there is no reason to think there is anything special about our universe and that our observations as sentient beings are logically limited to conditions which are suitable for sentient beings to develop.

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